Silverite - $25/Strand |
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UPDATE August 19, 2016 -- I got an email from someone who insists that she had two strands of "pink silverite" tested and they are "confirmed to be genuine corundum." (Corundum is sapphire---a precious gemstone.)
So of course, the burning question is this: WHY on earth would anyone sell strands of genuine sapphires as anything OTHER than genuine, precious sapphires? The answer is: they wouldn't! Simple logic would tell you that NO ONE would sell strands of genuine sapphires as "silverite", which is a supposed gem that is nonexistent in the gemstone world!
That is as silly as someone selling genuine Muzo emeralds as "Muzite" or strands of genuine diamonds as "Glitzite" or something, rather than saying they are emeralds and diamonds. NO ONE would do that!!
If they are genuine sapphires, they would be SOLD AS genuine sapphires---precious gemstones---not sold under some mysterious "pseudonym."
Again, more than one gemstone wholesaler in India (one of whom told me they mined the stones) have told me that "silverite" is "a new gemstone" and is "NOT corundum or any other gemstone already known" and is "uncoated and untreated". However, I have yet to have any "silverite" examined and tested that has been anything other than coated glass.
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Almost exclusively offered on Etsy, there are jewelry items made with a stone called "Silverite". It's a very pretty stone that looks a little like rough diamonds, or with some sort of mica-like sheen. I tried to find out more information about this supposed gemstone, so I googled it. There isn't much info on this stone, other than it's being offered for sale.
What I discovered, though, is very strange.
(1) First, I found "silverite" stones for sale on a website based in India. They seem reputable and have a large selection of gemstones. They also sell this silverite in their Etsy shop as well. Etsy seems to be their major market (or only market) for selling this stone. They offer white silverite, black silverite, natural uncut silverite, red, brown, "tanzanite" silverite, and grey silverite. These stones are smooth cut, faceted, briolettes, raw beads, smooth ovals, and all are simply described as "natural". There is no further description about this stone---just "natural silverite".
Blue-white Silverite |
I contacted this seller via Etsy and asked what the stone is. The reply was, "Its actually a new gemstone and only we've sold to all the sellers so far. We have in white and black and little blue / yellowish. Its not coated in any form or treated."
So according to the IMPORTER of this stone, it's a natural stone that is untreated and uncoated.
Prices for this silverite runs about $25 a strand.
(2) Another importer on Etsy in India offers Silverite and only describes it as "Natural Silverite".
Silverite Briolettes |
(3) So if these are the importers of this stone, then the Etsy sellers who use this stone probably purchased it from one of these importers, right? Then why is it that sellers are marketing this stone as:
- Mystic coated sapphire
- Opalescent coated sapphire
- Mystic corundum
- White sapphire
- Mystic silverite
- Mystic Pearl Finish Silverite
- Silverite Sapphire
- Mystic QUARTZ
- Diamond coated white corundum
- Madagascar Sapphire
I contacted the Gemological Institute of America (GIA), the leading source for gemstone information, and asked if they ever heard of this "new gemstone" called Silverite. I heard back, and their answer was: no, never heard of that gemstone, and they could only find the term "Silverite" which is an abandoned trademark, never used. It was filed in 2001 to describe gemstones that are coated with silver, gold, or platinum. (Example: gold plated pyrite.) This seems like it could apply, but since this is a "dead" trademark, and it describes SO MANY "mystic" coated gemstones and even plated gemstones (like pyrite), this doesn't apply---remember, I was told this was "natural" and "uncoated" by the wholesaler.
Searching mindat.org for "silverite", I was re-directed to an entry for vermiculite!
So....I still have no answer as to what this gemstone is, or if it is even a gemstone at all! Is it natural and uncoated? Sapphire? Quartz? Vermiculite?
Vermiculite |
Blue-black Vermiculite |
Silverite Briolettes---look a LOT like Vermiculite |
I've included some pictures of Vermiculite and you can see the resemblance it has to "silverite". Is it possible that silverite is some sort of treated Vermiculite? Treated to harden it? Perhaps untreated and natural Vermiculite? Many importers of gemstones give proprietary names to stones, some of which aren't gems at all----Opalite, for example (which is glass). Could silverite be just a trade name for some form of Vermiculite? It seems possible to me.
Brown-Yellow Vermiculite |
I'm not going to buy any of this silverite, basically because I can't even get a straight answer from the gem wholesalers as to what it actually is. I would never want to misrepresent something that may or may not be a gemstone and claim it's "diamond coated" or "sapphire" when the importers do NOT say that. I'm just waiting and hoping for someone to send this Silverite to a lab for testing to determine what it really is!
If the Gemological Institute of America doesn't know anything about silverite, it's a pretty safe bet that it's not really a gemstone at all, certainly not a recognized "new" gemstone, and quite possibly could just be a new trade name for some other mineral or material.
So---buyer beware!
-----> UPDATE: Apparently I was being GENEROUS by comparing "silverite" with vermiculite! It's NOT even vermiculite! It's not any sort of mineral at all. This is a GLASS product that is coated with some sort of pearlescent paint or glaze, and is sold as "silverite". It's NOT a mineral. It's NOT a gemstone. It's a fraud!
Thanks for this post. Very helpful to me in my quest to learn more about this previously unheard-of "gemstone".
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ReplyDeleteWell, now I'm even more confused. I collect a lot of gemstone photos and came across "silverite". Couldn't really find anything on it, but then I remembered a mineral called "sylvite" and classicgems.com did have a page on it with a single small photo of a faceted gem. Now, I've come across a lot of misspellings, so I thought that's what was going on there. The "silverite" gems do look a lot like the picture of the faceted sylvite: milky, semi-transparent white. So I started adding the "silverite" photos to my sylvite folder and then came across "silverite quartz" So I did another search with "silverite quartz" instead of just "silverite", and now here I am looking at vermiculite and coated gems and oy.
ReplyDeleteThank you for suggesting Sylvite! In reading about Sylvite (also spelled silvite) it does seem a possibility at first. Certainly the name is very similar. However, Sylvite is Potassium Chloride (KCl) and is highly soluble in water. It is a mineral that people take orally for high blood pressure or low potassium levels and things like that, and is used in foods as a salt substitute.
ReplyDeleteHere is a site I found that describes Sylvite: http://www.galleries.com/sylvite
and in part it says: "...sylvite is very soluble in water and specimens need to be stored in closed containers because even the moisture in the air can degrade its appearance. Never clean a sylvite specimen with water!"
So that really would never work as a gemstone!
Here is mindat.org's information about Sylvite also, which basically says the same about how brittle and soluble it is, with a salty and bitter taste:
http://www.mindat.org/min-30217.html
Thank you for your comment! Silverite is definitely a mystery, and until someone has it analyzed at the GIA or other reputable lab, it will remain a mystery. However, it is for sure NOT any kind of sapphire, which is what I'm seeing unscrupulous sellers calling it.
In addition, regarding "silverite quartz", I googled that and found a number of stones for sale on ebay called that. The light lavender translucent stones look like a real gemstone that's called "moon quartz" or "lavender moon quartz".
ReplyDeleteAs far as "silverite quartz" goes, lots of sellers will add the word "quartz" to something to give it some kind of credibility. For example, "opalite quartz" is used over and over, yet it still is NOT any form of quartz, but is in fact man-made GLASS. Another example of just adding "quartz" to non-gemstones would be things like "Cherry quartz" or "pineapple quartz", or gemstone-sounding "tanzanite quartz" and "emerald quartz" (and on and on...) which are all glass or some other material. Many "hydro quartz" stones are also nothing but glass. I think sellers are hoping that buyers won't have these "quartz" stones analyzed by a gemologist, but I did have about a dozen "hydro quartz" gems analyzed, and all but one was just glass.
(And the one "hydro quartz" that wasn't glass was a dyed clear rock quartz. At least it was a gemstone!)
DeleteThis is such an interesting topic and way over my head but I wonder could it be the mineral Caswellsilverite (NaCrS2), found in a meteorite that fell in Norton County, Kansas in 1948, was registered with the International Mineralogical Association in 1982?
ReplyDeleteYes, that is interesting! Caswell Silver was a geologist whose alma mater is the University of New Mexico, and I like to visit their meteorite museum.
ReplyDeleteThis so-called "Silverite" that's being sold is not Caswellsilverite though. First, the silverite samples I've had tested contain NO crystal structures, which would be found in any mineral, and indicates that it's glass (which has no crystal structure). Second, Caswellsilverite is found in such minute amounts in meteorites that it isn't feasible as a gem. Also, its Mohs hardness is between 1-2, which is extremely soft, between talc and gypsum. And Caswellsilverite is metallic, whereas "silverite" is not.
The closest mineral I've seen that looks a little like this "silverite" material is a mineral called Siderite. But then again, none of the silverite that I had tested (by a certified gemologist) turned out to be anything other than glass (so far!).
Here is the most complete info on Caswellsilverite that I could find:
http://webmineral.com/data/Caswellsilverite.shtml#.V87ZQTXwwTA
Thank you so much for your comment! I appreciate it!
Hello,
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Many people made fake silverite because silverite is not glass,hydro,sapphire or Quartz.I have a silverite a its testing report is natural sillimanite & silverite second name is sillimanite.
I forgot to tell you one thing.That I see an image above this name silverite briolettes but I think this is not a silverite or treated vermiculite.I think it is Kyanite briolettes.
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Hello!
DeleteSome of the "silverite" could very well be sillimanite, or maybe Kyanite. There is no such mineral as "silverite" so what is being sold could be anything else---and sillimanite is very much a possibility for sure. I know sillimanite is also used as a substitute for other gems, including emeralds, rubies and sapphires (dyed sillimanite). It's a great mineral, holds dyes well, has a beautiful sheen, and looks beautiful and interesting.
I've had several different pieces and strands of something sold as "silverite" tested---samples from different sellers, tested by different gemologists--and each of the ones I had tested were all glass. There was no crystal structure found in any of those pieces of this "silverite" I had tested---just simply glass. Sillimanite would exhibit its crystal structure--but these didn't have any. That's just what I've seen---none of them were minerals at all.
But it's very possible that some of the so-called silverite is actually sillimanite. It could also be Siderite (as I mentioned above in my blog). But it's not "silverite" because that doesn't exist in nature.
If someone is marketing Kyanite or Sillimanite under a different name (silverite), they should just either describe it as sillimanite, or even better---just call it sillimanite, and not create some other mineral name for marketing purposes. It seems disingenuous, at best.
My blog posts about this "silverite" material is to help unknowing consumers to at least think about what something truly is, and do a little research, and maybe gem testing, rather than rely on how it's marketed. In my personal opinion, based on the pieces I've actually had tested, none of this "silverite" was anything other than glass, and wasn't sillimanite. If your strands of "silverite" are actually sillimanite, then please sell them as sillimanite---it's a genuine mineral, a beautiful mineral, and shouldn't be hidden behind a fabricated trade name. I'd definitely buy sillimanite, but would never recommend anything called "silverite".
Thanks for your comment! I appreciate your insight into this sillimanite gem!
Hi there, I was on the verge of placing an order with a gemstone seller on Etsy from India and coming accross their Silverite listings made me pause to do research as to what Silverite was and I came accross your blog. :) Now I don't know if I should order or not. At least the silverite strand doesn't say natural like the normal strands I was going to order. hmmm They also sell "Arizona turquoise". Is it really in my best interest price wise to buy Arizona turquoise from a supplier in India? I am in search for a good Arizona turquoise supplier. Does anyone have any leads in that area by any chance?
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ReplyDeleteEvery piece of Silverite that I've had tested by a gemologist has turned out to be glass. So that's no good! A few weeks ago, a man in India contacted me to tell me that "all silverite is really sillimanite---it's the same stone" he said. Sillimanite is a common mineral (similar to kyanite, but not as pretty) that is often dyed and sold as genuine rubies, emeralds and sapphires in India. So there really is NO gemstone called "silverite", and it's either glass or sillimanite. Therefore, I'd totally avoid buying that stone, whether it turns out to be glass or sillimanite. That's my opinion!
Regarding turquoise--yes, I'd avoid "Arizona turquoise" from India or China. Those most likely are "reconstituted" or are all plastic ("block turquoise") and so I'd avoid it. Even here in New Mexico, it can be a little hard to find genuine turquoise, and every so often there will be a crackdown on the Native American jewelry sold in Santa Fe where they're using imitation stones, including imitation turquoise.
Anyway, I've compiled a list of online places where they sell genuine turquoise! I'd be glad to share it with you. I like the stores that sell turquoise according to where it was mined---each mine has its own "look", such as Sleeping Beauty. Here are some good places to shop:
- The Turquoise Chick: http://www.theturquoisechick.com/
- Stones and Silver - they claim to have the largest selection of genuine turquoise:
http://www.stonesnsilver.com/categories/beads
- Magpie gemstones - they have locations in TX and WA:
http://www.magpiegemstones.com/turquoise.html
- Ricon Trading - they have a lot of Sleeping Beauty turquoise:
http://www.rincontrading.com/sleeping-beauty-turquoise-beads
- Rio Grande Jewelry is a highly reputable wholesale company that sells gems and metals to jewelers worldwide. They describe all gems and their treatments, so you know what you're getting. You have to sign up to see prices and buy, but it's easy to do (if you haven't already). Here's a link to their site:
https://www.riogrande.com/search/go?w=turquoise
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Here are some examples of what genuine turquoise from different mines looks like, which is great info:
http://www.silversunalbuquerque.com/about/turquoise-mines
And finally, here is a website that has some good, general info about different types of turquoise and common treatments:
http://www.turquoiseguide.com/articles/turquoise/turquoise-basics/treated-turquoise.htm
Thank you so much for asking!
-Dawn :)
Wow Dawn! Thank you soooo much. I really appreciated the sources. I can't wait to go through all the links later. Thank you so much for taking the time to share with me! I wasn't going to buy the silverite and I can tell it is coated with a finish. They are pretty but I was like, what the heck is silverite? lol But I was planning on buying some moonstone and black spinel, also some aquamarine. I'm just trying to make sure I'm getting good quality beads. Seening the silverite listing made me hesitate and I don't get how they have "Arizona turquoise". :) Their listings say natural on the beads I was going to buy though so maybe I'm ok on those. And I asked if they were only heated. I wish I could see them in person. I'm going to check out Rio and Magpie for other gems as well. Dawn, have a wonderful day and thanks so much for the turquoise adivise! Jen
ReplyDeleteMy pleasure, Jen! Have fun gemstone shopping! Moonstone is always beautiful, as is spinel---I love that gem! Aquamarine is my favorite gemstone, and there is something called "Moss Aquamarine" that seems popular, but really it's (probably) a very low-quality, heavily included aquamarine (I bought some and HATE it!). Moonstone, spinel and aquamarine really isn't treated (sometimes aqua is heated, but mostly is untreated). You can find some nice gems at great prices on etsy.com---there are some great sellers there. One seller, "SmallLotGems" has nice stones that you can buy in small quantities to try out. She even has turquoise sometimes.
DeleteThanks again, Jen!
-Dawn
I bought some turquoise from The Turquoise Chick and I bought some things from SmallLotGems. Now I need to stop looking at beads lol. I can't wait to get my beads! yay!
ReplyDeleteOh how fun to get new gemstones!! I hope everything is even better than expected when they arrive! I also love coated gemstones---it adds such dazzle (and I'm all for that!). I looked at the etsy shop you purchased from, and WOW they have some gorgeous things---especially the moonstone pears and the Ethiopian opals! WOW! I will have to buy some of those myself. Thanks!!
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Hi Dawn,
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for this valuable post! I found you after having my curiosity piqued by a U.S. seller on Etsy, selling this 'stone' as rondelles they were calling "Mystic" (which is, or course, a coating name) and "natural stone" at the same time. So I googled it and you were at the top. "Silverite" kept coming up when I searched "white sapphire", and I had assumed they were just taking really low-grade sapphires and coating them to make them look nice. I would never have suspected glass. Also, I was disturbed to find that dyed sillimanite is being passed off as rubies, sapphires and emeralds in India. I have a feeling I have bought some of these - especially a decent-sized "sapphire" I'm obviously going to have to have tested before I put it into a piece of jewelry. Sigh. But thanks again - I really appreciate this!
Thanks so much, Lark! I updated this silverite post a little (at the top of my blog)---a seller in India contacted me a number of times to tell me that their silverite is actually uncoated natural "sillimanite"!! And perhaps the strands of beads they're selling are actually the mineral sillimanite, but I don't know for sure---I haven't bought any to have tested. (There's a link to their etsy shop in my recent blog post.) And since sillimanite is a mineral, WHY would anyone rename it with a phony, non-registered name like silverite? It really makes no sense to me.
DeleteI've learned that, although sillimanite was rare previously, mines in India have found a LOT of sillimanite in recent years. That would explain the glut of dyed silimanite (as precious gems) and now this silverite that PERHAPS is sillimanite, in some instances.
At any rate, all of the silverite I've had tested by certified gemologists have all been just glass.
I'm very disappointed in jewelry sellers on Etsy who have decided to just call this material "sapphire" or "opalescent sapphire" or "coated quartz" etc.! They NEVER got any of that info from ANY of the gem wholesalers. The wholesalers from India have ALL specifically told me that it's "not a sapphire" when I asked them. (Well no---it was glass, as tested!) So these "sillimanite = sapphire" jewelry people are the ones to avoid.
Thanks so much for reading my blog, Lark! And if you buy any silverite that is advertised as "sillimanite" and have it tested, please let me know!
- Dawn
Hi Dawn, I was really interested in your article as I was recently contacted on Etsy by a new jewellery seller from India (probably just marketing interested buyers) so I had a look at what they were selling and saw "Silverite", I was curious to know what this was as had never heard it before so Googled it and your blog came up top of the list.
ReplyDeleteNow seeing images of "Silverite" prompted me to take a look at my collection as I was 100% certain I already had a strand similar to this which I bought from my regular gem supplier (a reputable company), which was sold to me as Sapphirine.
My strand looks like the pictures you have on your blog of "Silverite" the stones are dark blue and translucent, some of the translucent stones have inclusions or smudges of blue, the stones are faceted rondelles and have a really good sparkle but don't look coated but I don't have a trained eye so not sure what I should be looking for.
I will probably have a certificate somewhere which might tell me where it originated from. I remember thinking at the time when I saw the strand it was very pretty and unusual so I bought it to add to my collection.
I am not a gemologist just someone with an interest in gems as a hobby, so am now wondering is it possible that my strand of Sapphirine might actually be "Silverite"?
Hi, Maria!
DeleteThanks for reading my blog! I appreciate that!
Well, "Silverite" isn't really a gemstone (the name is just made up), and no one knows for sure what it really is that is being sold, and is sold mostly on Etsy. Several sellers in India have told me they are selling strands of Sillimanite but are calling it "Silverite" for some reason. Sillimanite is a genuine mineral, and why they don't just call it what it is makes no sense to me! So according to a couple of sellers in India, all of the silverite is actually Sillimanite. However, according to the Gemologists I know, who have tested the samples I've personally bought, mine were not any mineral at all, but simply glass. I haven't had any further samples tested (within the past 6 months), so maybe some of these so-called silverite strands are actually Sillimanite---I don't know for sure!
So I have NO idea what you have! If you for sure have Sapphirine, then you have beautiful gemstones that are rare and oostly! If you think you have "silverite" then you might have Sillimanite, or glass---I don't know! But one thing is for sure: there is NO WAY that the stones being sold as "silverite" are Sapphirine! Sapphirine is a collector's gem. It's a gem that is pleochroic and usually shows dark blue and brown, and the color changes as you move the stone. Sapphirine can be found as tiny crystals in a host rock, but any gems larger than one carat (about 5mm in diameter) are pretty rare----and costs somewhere around $300 a carat and up. So if someone were selling Sapphirine, they would definitely say so and not call it by some name like "silverite"!
So if you have Sapphirine, it's NOT silverite! And if you choose to buy any "silverite", I'd suggest having a gemologist test it and they can tell you exactly what it is! And if you do, please let me know and I'll update my blog!
Thank you for asking!
-Dawn
To Google+ User Laura Lyne Einwechter:
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, but something went haywire as I was posting your comment and it disappeared! And I don't have your email so I can't write directly and can only respond here.
Thank you for reading my blog and taking the time to comment.
You mentioned various other Google results for the term "Silverite" and I wanted to point out that this is a blog for jewelry and gemstones, and not video games and political movements, etc. So I will address the Silverite term as it applies to gems being sold.
You mentioned a jewelry designer who on her website has a definition for Silverite as a "coated sapphire." ANYONE can write whatever they want on their site. The purpose of my blog is to inform buyers that this "coated sapphire" term is FALSE. It is NOT "Madagascar sapphire". It is NOT sapphire, coated or otherwise. It also is NOT quartz. It is NOT mystic coated anything, or diamond coated, or opalescent anything. (I've already listed many of these false gem descriptions of silverite in my blog.)
To explain: there are three "precious" gemstones: Diamonds, Emeralds and Sapphires (including Rubies). They are expensive gems and in high demand. NO ONE would sell a precious Sapphire (even a poor quality sapphire or ruby) by hiding the word "sapphire" and then call it another name, like "silverite". It would be ridiculous, like selling a genuine Diamond (even a poor quality Diamond) as "sparklesite" or something. NO ONE would do that.
I've personally had MANY samples of "silverite" tested by actual, genuine, reputable, certified Gemologists---and NONE of the samples I had turned out to be gemstones at all, but were glass. GLASS.
A wholesaler in India contacted me to tell me their company is THE ONE mining and selling Silverite, and they just decided to call it that (in other words, it's a made-up term) to market Sillimanite. Sillimanite is a mineral mined in India, and often dyed other colors and then fradulently sold as Rubies, Emeralds and Sapphires.
So, the purpose of my blog is to provide INFORMATION to people so they can make wise decisions. I've done a LOT of research on "silverite" and have updated that as new info is gathered, and shared it here. I have no personal interest in selling Silverite---I just don't like knowing that people are getting ripped off. If you choose not to believe the information I've shared here, that's fine with me. I am an information gatherer, a researcher, and I write the FACTS I've uncovered. What you do with that info is up to you! I just say, "buyer beware".
Thanks again!
Hi Dawn,
ReplyDeleteYour blog was very Informative, Thanks for that.
Just curious have you heard about "Monalisa" Gemstone?
Hi!
ReplyDeleteI've never heard of Monalisa gemstone!! But thanks---I'll look into that and write about it (if I can find out about it!). I really appreciate it---thanks so much!
- Dawn
Shared. Thanks for the informative article. I just came across this "stone" and wondered what it was.
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